You’re responsible for they’re providing food and a place to live for their family. I’m learning right now. That feeling of wow I could have done this better or trying to step your game up, that’s for me the feeling that gets me out of bed to go learn more stuff and become better at what I do, so for me to talk to people out there that have that feeling and maybe somebody in your audience has a project right now or they want to shift gears in their career and they’re like who am I to go be a freelancer right now. There’s a really interesting book I was lucky enough to read when I was younger called, I think it’s called the millionaire next door, and it’s full of silly examples when you hear them. I shot a lot of film and learned how to emulate cross processing in Photoshop so I basically made an iPhone app that did that to your photos as well and those were taking off. I could put them on the site, teach people, build the community around with other people that are passionate about this and then as we make products and plugins and training.

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You’ve had to transition from, you’ve had a lot of transitions, you really are like a true entrepreneur. You didn’t do it. It’s just a different way of speaking and I think for me at least it has to come across as something that greyzcalegorilla more direct energy.

Why do some people just seem to be awesome at it. There was really no way for me to even have a shot to save up a year’s worth of expenses, would have taken forever, and would have been impossible. This is not my money. He was always drawing analogies to real life and all the stuff. There’ll be a whole another podcast greyscalegrilla about my parents. I had parents I’m going on now, don’t make me cry.


To get really to the whole thing, the reason I love what we do at Greyscalegorilla and doing podcast like this, I love helping. It’s definitely in me and I find it’s in a lot of people and it comes back to that feeling and pushing past that feeling is what makes success, so try to make this a little bit more, even more abstract.

Again I was all over the place there, Joey, you slow me down. It’s not even a designer. We have plenty of those out. It’s something I take very seriously, but it’s also as we grow and as I become more of an owner of a company and less of the person that’s doing everything in the front lines. We left on good terms.

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I don’t know if we have time to go into it today, but those, I just want to make clear. What I would tell other people is have about four to six months worth of money in the bank that you could live off of no matter what. Lived in an apartment for nine months and basically learned how to live frugally so that we could build up that bank account and what I learned by doing that was that I did not miss a single luxury that we gave up, once we scaled down.

The only time it really hurts my feelings is when there’s a shred of truth to it.

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It’s really hard to get traction socially through Twitter or Facebook or YouTube or whatever if you don’t show up and tell people when you’re going to be on next, so people still have a TV mentality even though TV went away, Friday nights as 8 o’clock.


It was a very specific thing based on a real company that existed. It’s always easier to look at a thread of anything that’s being built and say, that make sense, but for me, as far as starting Greyscalegorilla and what it’s turned into.

One was, I discovered stock photography and then eventually stock video, and stock 3D stuff. The fact of all of that is is whatever is in your head is right. If you have a buffer, what I did was I treated that money like it wasn’t mine. As long as you’re clear about what your goal is then I would say go learn about this stuff, and you don’t have to just go ditch your job to go do it.

What we actually had to do was to deleverage. I was more excited to build my own thing.

It’s just not talked about as much. I literally think every dollar I put in and save that I don’t spend on something young Nick wants. Wow, I’m getting crazy today.

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I guess I had the, people who don’t own businesses, but you read about it or you hear about it on podcast or whatever. All of those things, at least for me, the way that I look at it is that it’s a good sign. There’s greyscalegorila a luck part of anything succeeding, but that’s definitely our luck.

Greywcalegorilla opposite of me, probably the opposite of Nick unless you’re in one of your manic, your obsessive mode or something.